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	Hm! So my grand plan for more posts per week this year relied principally on an increased willingness to break up the ones I had into more parts. I wasn&#8217;t really going to write much more. Unfortunately now I seem to not be writing any. I&#8217;ve more or less finished putting my head back together [...]]]></description>
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	<p>Hm!</p>
<p>So my grand plan for more posts per week this year relied principally on an increased willingness to break up the ones I had into more parts. I wasn&#8217;t really going to write much more. Unfortunately now I seem to not be writing any.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve more or less finished putting my head back together after a med interruption; unfortunately, I&#8217;m currently looking at 2-50 hours of hunger and a couple of weeks of projected cold snap with no idea if I&#8217;ll be able to obtain a heater for that period. Then I&#8217;ll be running out of riboflavin and not sure whether I can get more before I start having migraines, after which my visa will be running out and my housing situation will go up in the air. If there is writing time in there, it&#8217;ll go into finishing some Chuubo&#8217;s-related stuff&#8212;I&#8217;m using it to test for brain function as well as to hypothetically make money and make my fans happy, so it pretty much has to be first. Likely it&#8217;ll be difficult, then if all goes well suddenly both easy and an obsession, and at neither stage will I have energy for Hitherby. I&#8217;m not sure what happens after that.</p>
<p>So I think I have to shut this site down for now. Spoilers and excerpts for the remaining ongoing arc, the name of which I can&#8217;t remember right now*&#8212;oh! Right. Frog and the Thorn&#8212;are queued up to appear automatically towards the end of the month in a lame and haphazard fashion; if I can avoid the vague embarrassment of an untidy presentation by presenting them sooner and cleaner I will do so.</p>
<p>Best wishes,</p>
<p>Jenna</p>
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		<title>Aside in January 2012: &#8220;Knocking on Death&#8217;s Door&#8221; (attempt 1)</title>
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		<title>Letters Column in January 2012: &#8220;Holy Thursday, Batman!&#8221;</title>
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	The problem with “God values free will, and talking to people would compromise their free will” is that our concept of god is based on the Bible, and in the Bible God talks to people all the time. (In at least one case, he struck someone blind, and the person only regained their vision after [...]]]></description>
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	<blockquote><p><I>The problem with “God values free will, and talking to people would compromise their free will” is that our concept of god is based on the Bible, and in the Bible God talks to people all the time. (In at least one case, he struck someone blind, and the person only regained their vision after they agreed to be God’s direct servant.)</I><br />&#8211; David Goldfarb, on <a href="http://imago.hitherby.com/2011/10/and-three-points-is-the-game-iiv/">And Three Points is the Game</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, man, it&#8217;s supposed to be based on the <I>Bible?</I></p>
<p><I>looks once, sadly, at her tetrachloradic divinity device, then puts it away in the closet, folds the closet after it, and pastes a sad-face sticker in the air whereupon it used to be.</I></p>
<p>**</p>
<blockquote><p><I>There are a bunch of possible responses to that, and I’m disinclined to try for a serious discussion of non-Hitherby theology here, but here’s the one that amused me the most:</p>
<p>What if the Bible’s made of legends, not histories? (Using Hitherby definitions, obviously.) It’s the sort of thing God would say if he did talk to people. *shrug*</I><br />&#8211; Xavid, on <a href="http://imago.hitherby.com/2011/10/and-three-points-is-the-game-iiv/">And Three Points is the Game</a></p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;This is going to be LEGEND. . .</p>
<p><I>three days pass</I></p>
<p>**</p>
<blockquote><p><I>Beautiful as always. An unexpected origin for Tainted John, for me at least.</p>
<p>On a more general note, with the progression of my contemplative path, Hitherby Dragons is gaining a deeper resonance for me. I suspect it is half-secretly an elaborate metaphor or instruction for the process of awakening.</I><br />&#8211; villum, on <a href="http://imago.hitherby.com/2011/10/green-iiiv/">Green</a></p></blockquote>
<p>When we are not ready to wake up, the world is full of comforters and pillows. When it is time to wake up, it is full of alarums shouting. That is not narrative! That is simply life. ^_^</p>
<p>&#8230; although, hm, technically I suppose that is a broken metaphor since it is if anything the other way around when one is actually in bed.</p>
<p>This is why I&#8217;m not a guru, y&#8217;all. My allegories are more backwards than a pollening tree at a Claritin convention!</p>
<p>**</p>
<blockquote><p><I>Caught up. I’m glad you’re writing Hitheryby again.</I><br />&#8211; ScrewyAnathema, on <a href="http://imago.hitherby.com/2011/10/green-iiiv/">Green</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Yay!</p>
<p>**</p>
<blockquote><p><I>I wonder who John’s father is. Is it the monster? the fiend that came to pick up micah?</I><br />&#8211; durroth, on <a href="http://imago.hitherby.com/2011/10/green-iiiv/">Green</a></p></blockquote>
<p>A casualty.</p>
<p>**</p>
<blockquote><p><I>Why does John’s father have to be anybody other than an abusive asshole? Not everything has to be tied into the storyline.</I><br />&#8211; David Goldfarb, on <a href="http://imago.hitherby.com/2011/10/green-iiiv/">Green</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, I could make a point of it&#8212;of his <I>normalcy,</I> of the fact that the real world is full of people like John&#8217;s father, and kids like John. I could say &#8220;here is a wonder. Here is a brightness. In Liril&#8217;s neighborhood, there was a perfectly ordinary, mundane boy who was both abused and going to become an abuser. A boy who didn&#8217;t have a compass. And she decided, before she left to deal with her more magical problems, that she&#8217;d step in and save him, because he was too young for his awfulness to count.&#8221;</p>
<p>And that would be meaningful, because this is a story of the end of the tyranny of the mundane. It&#8217;s a story of how magic went away, and everyone was happy, only, now? There&#8217;s no magic to stop things like John&#8217;s father from doing whatever they like. It&#8217;s a story about how sometimes, because there&#8217;s no such thing as magic, people sometimes just suffer, and it&#8217;s not their fault, and yet they keep on suffering anyway. About how, in fact, <I>everybody</I> just keeps on suffering anyway, but also, sometimes? For some people? It&#8217;s this unbearable, unimaginably </p>
<p>awful thing.</p>
<p>I could do that. I could write that. I totally could.</p>
<p>But there isn&#8217;t a kind of god that saves you. There isn&#8217;t a magic that rescues. That&#8217;s the wrong analogy. This isn&#8217;t a story about how Jane and Martin will appear in your lives and make things better, or Liril and Micah, and certainly not Melanie.</p>
<p>John&#8217;s history ties into the storyline because the point where magic enters his life is the hook for magic to change it.</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s where it started. Here&#8217;s where it came from.</p>
<p>John&#8217;s father was in Santa Ynez when the monster broke the Dominion at Elm Hill. His father was made sick by the breaking of a King that humans have no pacting with. He drank that breaking, ate that breaking, breathed that breaking; it was in the groundwater, and the soil, and the sky. He was there when when the monster&#8217;s truth asserted its supremacy&#8212;not at Elm Hill, not in the monster&#8217;s employ, simply, well, nearby. It poisoned him.</p>
<p>He was a casualty.</p>
<p>Of course, not everyone who gets sick on the monster&#8217;s leavings goes on to hurt others. That&#8217;s just the easy road. That&#8217;s what happens when people are bright enough to figure out that their suffering is unfair, but a bit too dim or broken to realize that that doesn&#8217;t make it justice when they pass that suffering on.</p>
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	Hm. So I was working on a tetrachloradic divinity device in response to the way that an omnibenevolent omnipotent omniscient God should really be intervening a lot more often, and, apropos of nothing, found myself wondering if it is in fact true that God does not talk to people in dramatic, externally observable and trackable [...]]]></description>
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	<p>Hm.</p>
<p>So I was working on a tetrachloradic divinity device in response to the way that an omnibenevolent omnipotent omniscient God should really be intervening a lot more often, and, apropos of nothing, found myself wondering if it is in fact <I>true</I> that God does not talk to people in dramatic, externally observable and trackable events all the time. Oh, sure, there&#8217;s no evidence for it, and there would be such evidence by definition, <I>but</I></p>
<p>You can totes build a perfect mapping between the real world and a world where that happens. It is easily space-time isomorphic.</p>
<p>Now, that mapping? It isn&#8217;t a simplification. It&#8217;s got to be practically a <I>complication.</I> And I&#8217;d even go so far as to say that that is why we do not experience it. That we tend not to experience things that add that much Kolmogorov complexity to our experiential world unless we&#8217;re schizophrenic (or human) or whatever. <I>but</I></p>
<p>I&#8217;d <I>also</I> guess, using my way undernourished computer science intuition, that the additional complexity of an active interventionist God is less than logarithmic in world-size, and possibly even constant. So what does it even mean to say that that world isn&#8217;t so?</p>
<p>Now that may make me seem like I&#8217;m all apologetic for the Lord and stuff, that I&#8217;m being a good theodicist, but OK, that&#8217;s not quite true, because look, this bit here? This bit is <I>where I go off the rails of apologetics and crash right into a brain controlling a trolley.</I> </p>
<p>My instinct is <I>also</I> that getting from here to a <I>perfect</I> world is quadratic. </p>
<p>And <I>that</I> is so much worse than merely bad apologetics that it will probably actually be described by future archaeologists as a crude biologically-prototyped example of the computational heresies that would later tear apart the allegiances of the pontiffs and magistrinae of the First Artificial Church.</p>
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	More than half of the people around you are sharks in disguise. They wear their fleshy human faces so that we do not know. However you can spot them by their plover fish and their inability to breathe on land, if you try. By their vastness. By their rows of teeth. Why have we allowed [...]]]></description>
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	<p>More than half of the people around you are sharks in disguise. They wear their fleshy human faces so that we do not know. However you can spot them by their plover fish and their inability to breathe on land, if you try. By their vastness. By their rows of teeth.</p>
<p>Why have we allowed them into our homes? Onto our streets?</p>
<p>Ultimately it is probably the fault of all those people who voted for Nader. This is what you get, Nader voters. This is what you <I>get.</I></p>
<p>**</p>
<blockquote><p><I>I tend to think of God as valuing free will; choosing to walk the path of righteousness is only meaningful if you had a free choice and reasonable alternatives. If God doesn’t give answers, you can’t really be sure whether you’re rebelling against God or rebelling against a false interpretation of God, or something.</p>
<p>It also reminds me of the old question of, say, whether it would be morally good to sell your soul to the Devil to feed starving children.</I><br />&#8211; Xavid, on <a href="http://imago.hitherby.com/2011/10/and-three-points-is-the-game-iiv/">And Three Points is the Game</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Dude . . . um . . . that&#8217;s not what children eat.</p>
<p>Seriously.</p>
<p>The Devil is misleading you. The Prince of a Thousand Lies hath thee in thrall. What most children eat is not made of humans at all(*), but even if it is, even if they are vicious wolf-raised free-range anthropophagous orphans, they&#8217;ll <I>still</I> prefer something that&#8217;s more meaty than a <I>soul.</i> Now, I suppose that if you&#8217;re not a dualist, you could argue that the Devil intends to feed your <I>enfleshed</I> soul to the hungry orphans, but that&#8217;s not only sophistry but it&#8217;s a pretty easy moral choice to make to boot: human trafficking is <I>always wrong.</I></p>
<p>Even if you&#8217;re just exporting someone to the nutrient pits to be torn apart by starving children while the Devil laughs! Even if it&#8217;s yourself! </p>
<p>You probably aren&#8217;t even allowed to traffic humans to feed <I>God.</I>(**) </p>
<p>(*) I mean, except for nursing children, of course. But frankly by the time they graduate from nursing school they aren&#8217;t really children any longer. That&#8217;s the horrible irony of it all. It&#8217;s even worse if they become doctors, sharks,(***) or pharmaceutical researchers! Although I don&#8217;t mind you taking a moment to think about Doogie Howser and more generally Neil Patrick Harris so I can make a Barney Stinson as Jesus joke tomorrow.</p>
<p>(**) although seriously after all these years of transubstantiation he is kind of <I>owed.</I> That&#8217;s not the joke. It&#8217;s not <I>Barney&#8217;s</I> flesh. That would just be ridiculous. Nobody would want to eat a purple dinosaur. I mean, except for starving children. But even they would probably not attach spiritual significance to it. </p>
<p>(***) you don&#8217;t know pain until a baby shark tries to nurse from you. Particularly if it is a <I>robot</I> shark. I mean, seriously. Also, that plover fish? NOT HELPING. <I>Let the robot baby nursing shark cry.</I> Your nipples will thank you for it. I thank God every day that I failed out of the Young Ladies&#8217; Squaline Robotics and Finishing Academy before the mandatory nursing seminar.</p>
<p>**</p>
<p>I am pretty messed up from running out of all money and all food that was not oatmeal for a fair few days but now it is resolved. However if I seem a little visceral and bleak, like my words are an undersea-installation shell encrusted with barnacles and through the window-glass are peculiar vibrating, darting globules of darkness&#8212;well, then, that is why!</p>
<p>Incidentally that is what they sound like to me. I&#8217;m not just being random! Though that description doesn&#8217;t capture the golden hue of the thing or the rust on the pipes.</p>
<p>**</p>
<blockquote><p><I>It took me this long to realize that the non-chibi pictures of the Fox and Hound, like the last panel in #27, are from Prosaic Reality. Before I’d thought it was a way of providing contrast and highlighting the Chibi style of the rest of it, but in Nobilis “two different styles” isn’t just art; it’s the way the world works!</p>
<p>Is there any other area for comments on it?</I><br />&#8211; dave.o, on <a href="http://imago.hitherby.com/2011/10/and-three-points-is-the-game-iiv/">And Three Points is the Game</a></p></blockquote>
<p>There was not!</p>
<p>There is now. You could go over and say something cool about the guest art for this week or last week! But at the same I was using ComicCMS as an experiment. I wound up taking the comments down when I made a test comment and lost all my queued posts or something. It was sad! So I switched Chibi-Ex over to WordPress.</p>
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<blockquote><p><I>From Should Siggorts?:</I></p>
<blockquote><p>These are the signs of the coming of a King: corrupt actions. Fear and hatred. The pollution of the groundwater, so that sinks run with green water and with black.</p></blockquote>
<p><I>Right now these little hints just tease at me, but I look forward to the day I’ll be able to look back over it all and see the connections I couldn’t see now.</I><br />&#8211; dave.o, on <a href="http://imago.hitherby.com/2011/10/green-iiiv/">Green</a></p></blockquote>
<p>It is probably just another Nader reference. I can&#8217;t stop talking about him! I think it&#8217;s some kind of disease. One where you Ralph things up. But only if you eat them first. BUT it&#8217;s bad to feed people to children. Even politicians! So if you&#8217;re going to eat a politician make sure you&#8217;re old enough first, and please also make sure that you haven&#8217;t downloaded any illegal content lately.</p>
<p>Because, otherwise, it would be wrong.</p>
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